Kerby:  One of my favorite members of Congress, Representative Bachmann, always great to have you onPoint of View.

 

Bachmann:  Kerby, it is always an honor to be on this show.  This is one of the few places I can tune into where I always know that I am going to hear the truth.  So, thank you for standing tall on these issues that people need to hear about.

 

Kerby:  One of the things we encouraged people to do a while back was based upon my previous interview with you saying that we should not fund the Syrian rebels.  And I know a large number of our listeners did contact the White House and even their members of Congress but it looks like the President is going to go ahead anyway.  Tell us more.

 

Bachmann:  Well, you know the President seems determined that he will back the Muslim Brotherhood.  The President has made some very interesting moves during the course of his presidential career.  If you look at the unilateral efforts he made to go into Libya, to begin bombing there.  We had a relatively benign, neutered dictator in Gaddafi.  He fell and now we have Muslim Brotherhood, al Qaida, al Nusra Front; in other words, we have terrorists that are effectively running Libya.  The same can be said for Tunisia.  The Muslim Brotherhood did run Egypt but the people kicked them out and they have a more secular government in now.  But now the President is determined to put; whether it’s al Qaida, the Muslim Brotherhood, al Nusra Front, various strains of terrorism.  The President is determined the United States will not only help them get into a position of power but fund them along the way.  Now this isn’t just the ranting of a right-wing extremist, this is an action based on the President.  I’m extremely grateful that you brought this up, because consider when this happened.  This was on Monday.  The story on Monday was the shooter who had taken 12 innocent people’s lives, as well as his own, that would be 13 lives.  Under the cover of that story, that’s the day that the President chose to waive the prohibition on the United States to give arms and fund terrorists.  Well, of course we would prohibit that.  Why would we want to arm the people that we’re sending our innocent young men and women soldiers to kill?  We’re trying to kill these people.  I just got back from the Middle East; I met with various heads of the Middle East and they looked at me from across the table and they said, “Would you explain to me why the United States today supports terrorists?”  Now imagine what this is like.  I’m a member of Congress, sitting across the table from heads of state, and they’re saying to me, “Why are you, the United States, on the side of terrorists?  Why are you funding them?  Why are you training them?  Why are you arming them?”  I agree with them.  This administration has now crossed the other line and I will tell you Kerby, today I have more people talking to me about impeachment than ever before.  One thing the president of the United States cannot do is arm, and train, and fund our enemies.  That to me is a treasonous action.

 

Kerby:  You know, I just had a call a few minutes ago from someone from Rhode Island wondering what can, or what should, Congress do. And I said, well, I’m seeing more and more people talking about impeachment than ever before.  But it does seem to me that a lot of people watched a pattern, and that is that the President does something that is wrong, something that in many cases is illegal and Congress doesn’t do anything.  So, I guess the question we have is what can Congress do and what are you prepared to do if indeed this goes forward as it looks like it will?

 

Bachmann:  Well, the president of the United States could certainly be defunded in different areas.  And I think that’s one thing the House of Representatives should do is defund some of these areas where the president has made, in my mind, unconstitutional actions.  But, the House can’t do that alone.  Unfortunately, the Senate has to agree and the president has to sign off.  We aren’t getting any cooperation from the Senate or from the president.  And that’s why people are frustrated.  The most extraordinary measure that the Congress can take is impeachment.  I don’t like to go down that road.  We haven’t gone down the road very often.  It’s something absolutely extraordinary. And I think it’s harmful to the country and to the credibility of the United States when we go through that. In the country of Egypt for example, the people had no impeachment process.  So what could the people do?  They took to the streets.  And something over 30 million people, the largest mass human demonstration in the history of the world.  They took to the streets because they wanted to get rid of the cruelties of the violent Muslim Brotherhood, a terrorist organization.  And they got rid of them.  In our country we do have a process, it’s called impeachment.  And again, it’s something that we don’t take lightly.  But when the president of the United States makes an action like he did on Monday, Kerby, when he waives a provision that prohibits him from arming terrorists.  And today he is arming terrorists intentionally, directly in front of the American people. I as a member of Congress can’t sit by and watch our president arm terrorists.  These terrorists have vowed they want to destroy Israel, they want to kill people in the United States, they want to bring us down.  We see that all the time, and when a madman speaks, we should listen.  And the terrorists are telling us exactly what they are going to do, we need to take them seriously.  When our president starts arming them, then I think it’s time to have a very strong talk with the American people, “What do you want to do about it?”  And I would like to hear from your listeners, I would like to know what they would like to have us do about it.  And I really encourage your listeners, you have a well educated audience, an audience that loves this country.  I encourage your listeners, Kerby, to call their member of Congress, call their Senators and have a conversation about what they think about our president, who is not thinking about this, who actually did it, who signed the sheet of paper on Monday.  As we are having this conversation right now, our president is shipping arms, training, and money to terrorists, to go into Syria.

 

Kerby:  We’re going to put out an action alert on that regard.  One more point maybe on that, give us what you have been able to learn about what the elements are.  I’ve heard most people say that the strongest element in the rebel faction are al Qaida, but also the Muslim Brotherhood.  As talking points for some of our listeners, what would you encourage them to say?

 

Bachmann:  What I would encourage them to say is they don’t appreciate the president of the United States sending weapons, training, and money to terrorists.  Why are we sending our young men and women in harms way to kill these people when we are in fact arming them and giving them weapons?  It doesn’t make any sense.  We need to demand that the president of the United States stop arming terrorists anywhere across the world.  He needs to get off of the side of advocating for the Muslim Brotherhood.  He needs to start advocating for the American people.  It’s our interests that are at stake and he’s on the wrong side.  It’s hard to believe it, but our president is on the wrong side.

 

Kerby:  Wow.  Just before I let you go, I know you’ve been in a meeting where you’ve also talked about the idea defunding, and hopefully, eventually repealing and replacing Obamacare.  Any thoughts about what’s happening on Capital Hill right now.  Anything we need to know about?

 

Bachmann:  Yeah, and as bad as the news was on arming terrorists, this is very good news.  Your listeners, Kerby, have been calling their members of Congress and it paid off this week.  Because there was going to be a fake bill to defund Obamacare last week and your listeners melted the phone lines and the Republican leadership of the House listened.  We had a closed-door meeting today, I just left another closed-door meeting, and we’re going to pass a bill at the end of this week that will actually defund Obamacare, we’ll send it over to the Senate.  And it funds the government, we’re running out of money now at the end of September, that’s the end of the fiscal year.  And so we’ve got to do the funding, that’s what this bill is about.  But at the same time, we’re saying, look, if we’re going to fund government we’re going to defund Obamacare.  So, the Republican leadership listened to the American people, we’re going to have a good bill, I’m going to vote for that bill.  So this is all positive.  And then we’re also looking at the debt ceiling, we’re running out of money with the borrowing.  And in order to borrow any more money, our condition is that Obamacare has to get delayed.  All of it.  It has to get delayed for a year.  The healthcare exchanges, every bit of this very bad bill needs to get delayed for another year.  If you want to borrow money, we’re not going to borrow it in order to fund Obamacare.  So, this is really, really good news because a lot of times I think your listeners feel like I call, I call and nothing happens.  Something happened, it really paid off!  Thank you, thank you for making the calls and that’s why I think people need to get a little riled up about what the President did this week on arming terrorists.  And I think you need to let you member of Congress know, you need to let Senators know that your not OK sending your tax dollar and the treasure and fortune of the lives of innocent Americans training and arming terrorists.

 

Kerby: Representative Michele Bachmann I know you’ve got to go and we do as well.  Thank you so very much for joining us.  Look forward to the next opportunity.

 

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